Does Miami Have A Lock On Trading Down?


Matt Ryan - LindyssportsThis is nothing but speculation.  There is no new rumor that is flying around the internet, no inside scoop from a source here or there or anywhere.  This is my thoughts.  Educated, bias, unfounded, whatever the case may be, I have to ask, do the Miami Dolphins have a lock on trading down from the number 1 overall pick?  On the surface the answer may be no, or who knows.  Underneath, that is a different story entirely.

I will forget about the Dallas stuff for a second and concentrate on some other intriguing questions.  1st, why haven’t the Dolphins truly addressed their cornerback situation?  I know I spoke of this a few days ago, in mentioning a trade with Atlanta for De’Angelo Hall, but why haven’t they?  2nd, why have the Dolphins not made more of a splash in free agency after Friday?  Sure they signed a special teams guy and resigned Yeremiah Bell, but they have only a few visits scheduled one of which is with special teamer Tab Perry out of Cincinnati.  They have the money.

Remember all that…it will come into play shortly.

Lets move on to the Atlanta Falcons, a team rumored to be a target for the number 1 pick.  Atlanta could 3 ways in this Aprils’ draft.  Trade down for more picks, draft Darren McFadden, or draft Matt Ryan.  All assuming they don’t move up to number 1.

Earlier this week, the McFadden deal pretty much fell apart with the signing of FA RB Michael Turner.  Turners’ contract puts Atlanta in a position of not spending big money on another one.  So, bye-bye Mcfadden.

Now, Atlanta has parted ways with QB Joey Harrington, leaving only 5 year veteran Chris Redman and 2 year veteran DJ Shockley on the roster.  With very little available in the free agent market and absolutely zero franchise QB prospects, the Falcons could look to a trade…which of course there are zero franchise QB’s available via trade as well…at least none that wouldn’t cost say a number 1 draft pick, even with D. Hall thrown in.

That leaves option 3, trading down and out of the top 3.  On the surface it makes sense, but unless they move to a position that could net them say Joe Flacco out of Delaware or Brian Brohm out of Louisville, they will likely lose Matt Ryan to Baltimore.  Realistically, not having a franchise QB on their roster, even if that QB is a prospect, is a little risky when trading down.

Atlanta has just painted themselves into a corner.  Arthur Blank made the mistake of opening his mouth earlier this week to someone, who obviously is a source for a media guy because now their are rumors that Blank is in love with Matt Ryan.  Well Art, your not getting him if you move down, and if Jeff Ireland wants him at one…your S.O.L.

So that brings the circle together.  Does Miami have a deal in place to move down?  It would suggest the lack of interest in a cornerback, as Hall could be involved in a trade to move up.  It would also explain the lack of free agent signings to some degree as the Phins would likely rework the Hall contract, it will be expensive, and if they have a plan in place to add more draft picks in rounds 1, 2, and 3, the rookie pool allotment will be higher and more money will be needed for that.  It all makes sense, under the surface of it all.

Atlanta wants Ryan, the Dolphins want to move down.  Atlanta has the money, the space, and now the need.  The Dolphins are still being rumored to be tied to the Cowboys for McFadden, another play that makes sense as the cost is less for both Jerry Jones’ pocket as well as his draft picks and other compensations.

After all that, there is one more ironic twist to the entire slate of madness.  The connections.  Parcells leaves Dallas last year, he agrees to work for Blank, pulls out to work with the Phins leaving Blank searching for anything.  He takes Miami’s job and rapes the Cowboys of their coaching staff and scouting director.  To think that all of that could put Miami in a perfect marriage for draft picks, players, and an accelerated rebuild.

Stranger things have happened.

Tags: Atlanta Falcons Darren McFadden DeAngelo Hall. Joey Harrington Matt Ryan Miami Dolphins

  • http://www.miamidolphins.co.uk Shady

    I’ve heard so much about the Cowboys thing. What’s your take on the likelyhood of a trade right now and what do you think the scenario would be?

  • http://www.Phinphanatic.com Brian Miller

    IF…big IF, I were going to go on record with a trade this is how I would think it may happen.  Atlanta trades Dallas De’Angelo Hall for their 28th pick.  Miami trades the one overall for the 3 spot and a 2nd rounder.  Miami then trades down with Dallas for the 22 spot, their 3rd rounder this year, a 2009 first rounder, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Fassano.

    If I were to go on record.

  • http://www.miamidolphins.co.uk Shady

    I see why you wouldn’t want to go on record but kudos for posting it. I see where you’re coming from though. In many ways this really could be one of our most interesting drafts in years!

  • MisterX

    would dallas give up 2 picks and 2 players for the #3???

  • mike

    I already posted this EXACT scenario on another site!  In fact I believe it is more likely than not to happen.  It just makes sense all around.  In fact, with Atlanta’s lack of a "face of the franchise" and the blunders of the previous year  – they almost HAVE to trade up and take Ryan!  I will say this, one way or another Ryan won’t make it to #3.  Three is also a perfect spot for the phins cause they guarantee they get a pass rusher at 3 between Gholston and Long.  I think Gholston.  They address the CB position, and perhaps pick up another pick.  It actually leaves the defense looking pretty good next year believe it or not!

  • MisterX

    Brian:  where did you get the LB and the TE from Dallas in your scenario??  I like it.Mike:  so we end with the #3 in your scenario? Brian has us trading that one for 22.

  • MisterX

    OK, just for kicks…a 4-way trade:  Jags get Jason Taylor; Falcons get Matty Ice, Marion Barber(from DAL[I know what your thinking, but Turner has only been a backup and Barber could split carries for a great backfield]), a 2nd round pick from Miami(#62 from DAL) and swap a 4th round pick with Miami(#123 from JAX); Cowboys get Darren McFadden and De’Angelo Hall(from ATL); Dolphins get two 1st round picks from Dallas(#22 from CLE, #28), a  2nd round pick from Jacksonville(#59) and swap a 4th round pick with Atlanta(#99).

    Here is what we each give up:                                                                 JAX – 2nd rounder, 4th rounder                                                                    ATL – #3 overall, De’Angelo Hall, swap 4th rounder                                DAL – #22 and #28 overall, 2nd rounder, Marion Barber                              MIA – #1 overall, Jason Taylor, 2nd rounder                                                                                                                       That would give us FIVE picks through 2 rounds and ELEVEN through 7 rounds.  I know…get a life, right?!  Goodnight, I’m going to pray now. :)

  • http://www.Phinphanatic.com Brian Miller

    X:  In regards to the two players, Carpenter has been a dissappointment in Dallas and earlier this month there was talk that JJ wanted to trade him, in fact they put him on the block, but the interest was low.  BP likes him, he drafted him and he has done very well on ST.  As a LB he still needs some work but his problem is mainly he takes on hits rather than give them.  As for Fassano…Lets just say that a source told me his name was brougt up as a potential a long time ago…for some reason I just think he would be one.

  • MisterX

    good looking out Brian

  • KC_Ryan

    I really enjoyed your article and thoughts.  Your comments "On the record" have me wonder why you think Dallas will trade for DeAngelo Hall?  Do they have enough cap space to keep Marion Barber, D.Hall, McFadden, and K.Hamlin long-term?  All will require high money deals coming soon.  If they get Hall, could a potential player in a trade with us be Terrence Newman? (3rd CB behind Allen and Lehan) I’d feel more secure if we could get Hall instead of Dallas.  We haven’t addressed our CB (outside of Lehan) and one is needed.  Unless BP & JI are planning on getting one in the draft. If JT stays…..could we be a pretty good team this year or next?  I would think so (if we were to get Hall).

  • http://www.Phinphanatic.com Brian Miller

    I don’t believe that the Cowboys need to spend long term money on those guys.  Hamlin is a franchise tag so thats one year if they don’t sign him long term.  Barber has yet to negotiate a long term deal leading to speculation that the Boys may trade him….especially if McFadden is drafted.  A lot of variables go into how money is distributed and whether or not Jones believes the Cowboys are making a run or are in it for the long haul.

  • http://myspace bigbillshater

    This is ludacris (if thats how it sounds) why trade with Dallas for those picks and get a linebacker and a TE, We need a shutdown 1# corner.  I say we trade Andre Goodman, Taveris Tillman, and the 1st pick to Atlanta for the Deangelo Hall and the 3rd pick and still take either long, Jake or Chris they get the francised QB and we get the corner and the best positional player  for the future.