Quarterback Options For 2012 (poll)

Matt Moore

In my last article entitled “The Time to Plan for 2012 is Now” I focused on several areas that the Fins needed to address and plan for. They included decisions on contracts and drafting strategies. However, the decision to sign FA’s like Paul Soliai or pay Brandon Marshall his 9.3 million pale in comparison to the situation at QB.

Chad Henne will be a free agent and undoubtly be looking for a long term lucrative contract. Do you try and re-sign him? I think you do, but only within limits. I am going to go out on a limb (the size of a telephone pole),  and say that Chad Henne is not our franchise quarterback. It is a shame Chad got hurt after all his hard work to prove he is a worthy NFL quarterback. With the o line playing so poorly and Chad getting hit so often, I was worried he might get hurt, but never imagined it would happen on a broken play.

 

How about Matt Moore? Matt has been a serviceable QB considering the situation he was abrutly thrown in to. Moore is signed through the end of next year and if he continues to play well and stay healthy, it will make the Henne decision much easier. Is Matt Miami’s future? If he is, it will most likely be in the capacity as a backup. This is Moore’s 4th year. If he were going to develop into an elite QB, I would have thought it would have happened by now, although being on a team as bad as the Panthers were probably didn’t help.

Then we have Pat Devlin. I like this guy a lot and thought it was a smart move to sign him as an undrafted free agent. Does he last on the practice squad without getting plucked by another team? Can he make the 53 man roster in 2012? Let me be clear. I absolutely hate the idea of carrying only two QBs on the active roster. Risk versus reward makes this a bad trend, or at least in my opinion. What if Pat gets picked up and Moore gets hurt? It is not an unrealistic scenario.  Since the typical fan gets very little or no news, one can only guess. I would love to see him make the roster this year and get some playing time.

 

Next we move to the recently signed J.P. Losman. J.P., or Jonathon Paul was the 22nd overall draft pick by the Buffalo Bills in the 2004 draft. Five years later he was playing for the Las Vegas Locomotives. Who?? J.P. has also spent time in Oakland and Seattle.  Jonathon has a lifetime NFL completion rating of 59.3 and an overall rating of 75.6. In other words, a “backup for lifer.” However, apparently the “brain-trust” and our expert QB coach believes the 8 year pro is a better option than giving Pat Devlin an opportunity (insert facetiousness here) .

There are two other options that I see. One is to try and sign an established FA quarterback next year. Is this really a viable option? NO!

The other option is to draft a QB in the first round. Now, there is a thought!! Gee, it has been 28 years since they drafted a QB in the first round and that turned out pretty decent (all grins). Let me put it this way. IF THE FINS DO NOT DRAFT A QB IN THE FIRST ROUND IN THE NEXT DRAFT, I WILL HAVE LOST ALL FAITH IN THIS FRANCHISE. I am over it! The time is right. Even if the Fins manage to win a couple of games and don’t have the overall 1st pick, there is other very good to excellent quarterbacks out there not named Andrew Luck.

 

There are the most likely viable 2012 quarterback options as I see them, although there are more possibilities.

 

Note to all: I attempted to simplify the previous poll answers, but were unable to with the current software. My only options were to leave them. as confusing as they were, or to replace them with a new poll. I chose the later. I apologize for the inconvenience and ask that you please vote again.

 

What is The Best Option For QB in 2012?

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  • fins4ever

    I agree with the “so far majority” that keeping Henne as a starter and Matt Moore as a backup is the most desireable option. Notice I said “desirable” and not “likely.”

    I just don’t see the Fins paying big money to Henne while the newly drafted QB develops. Even with a full training camp and no lockout distractions, I don’t believe the drafted QB will start the year, but expect that he would play at some point in the year.

    Given the aspect of money and Henne wanting a long term deal, I think we have seen the last of CH. It is for that reason I personally voted the best option is to start Moore and keep Devlin as a backup.

  • fins4ever

    I agree with the “so far majority” that keeping Henne as a starter and Matt Moore as a backup is the most desireable option. Notice I said “desirable” and not “likely.”

    I just don’t see the Fins paying big money to Henne while the newly drafted QB develops. Even with a full training camp and no lockout distractions, I don’t believe the drafted QB will start the year, but expect that he would play at some point in the year.

    Given the aspect of money and Henne wanting a long term deal, I think we have seen the last of CH. It is for that reason I personally voted the best option is to start Moore and keep Devlin as a backup.

  • redteg02

    2 of the options are the same, unless my eyes or brain are playing tricks on me (which is entirely possible).

  • fins4ever

    Options 1 and 3 are similar. Option 1 suggests we draft a QB and option 3 suggests we don’t. I can see how that can be confusing. I will make the word “don’t” in bold face.

  • redteg02

    what about option 1 and 5? Let Henne go, keep Moore, draft a QB and use Losman as a backup. and Let Henne go, keep Moore, draft a QB and use Losman as a backup. they are the same exact length.

  • fins4ever

    Option one has us re-signing Henne. I am getting confused myself, and I wrote it!!! lol

  • redteg02

    @fins4ever oh well. I’m probably crazy. I see the same thing. Under results they both have 10 votes but one is at 4% and the other is it 5%. I blame my bad eye sight on watching all the games this year so far.

  • fins4ever

    The poll has been reworded and put in a more orderly fashion. Sorry for the confusion. Disregard all previous comments relating to the poll question.

  • Lespaul

    Devlin is a long shot unless we get the chance to see him play with a linebacker in his face. draft Luck and use every trick in the book to get him if you are not the No 1 pick. That said, Landry Jones, Matt Barkley, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Case Keenum & Robert Griffin. These are all guys that could be vetted if we don’t have any ‘Luck’.

  • fins4ever

    @Lespaul Agree on Devlin being a long shot, but I voted to not pay Henne the big bucks and keep Moore and use Devlin as the backup until our draft pick is ready (should not be long).

    After all, we know what we have in Losman. Give the kid a shot, at least make him a pre-season starter. Did not know who Keenum was….until yesterday. 9 TD passes. Oh my! lol

  • Strongguard70

    In my opinion, keeping Henne would be prudent because of the uncertainty of next year. We don’t know what Qb we will end up drafting and if it’s anyone other than Andrew Luck, I think we should allow him some time to develop. Remember, guys like Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, and Tony Romo didn’t start right away. Also I speculate the free agency for qbs will be weak. The top free agents this year have already declined to play for the team, I doubt there will be much change next year with the exception of guys like Donavan Mcnabb, and Kyle Orton, two guys I like less than I like chad Henne. Not to mention Henne knows the receivers better than any one we could pick up.

  • fins4ever

    @Strongguard70 Good points. Agree on the free agency being weak. I look at it as a shopping trip for backups. If you go into FA looking for a starting QB, you are in a world of hurt. Just look at McNabb, Vince Young and Palmer. Not only are they second rate, they are expensive. Two 1sts for Palmer??? PLEASE!!

    Don’t count on seeing Henne again. If Moore “survives” the pathetic O line, esp. the RH side, he will be the starter until Luck (oops) takes over for new coach Cowher (I did it again). lol

  • Strongguard70

    @fins4ever Thanks for the comment, but as we saw today Moore is not the guy. I know the offensive line didn’t really hold up as you predicted, but Moore has a problem with holding the ball, something that Henne was starting to show improvement in. If the throw wasn’t there or the pressure came quick he could quickly diagnose it and get rid of the football. Moore looks to run to keep the play alive, which obviously helped us early but when you are working against the clock both to retain a lead and to win the game, you have to know when to hold them and when to fold em and keep the drive alive. 3rd and 30?! We can’t convert 3rd and 10. Sad loss today, worse than tebow if you ask me.

  • fins4ever

    @Strongguard70 Not sure what you are talking about. Moore had a great game. You are talking about Matt Moore, right???

    The o line sucked when it counted the most. Not sure what you mean “as I predicted”??? I predict the o line will continue to suck. You are obviously confused.

    Bush went over 100 yards for his 2nd time in his career. WOW!!!

    The secondary sucked even more than usual. Wilson got schooled which is just part of maturing. Smith let his mouth overload his talent and stayed a good 10 yds. off the line.

    No way was today’s loss worse than giving up a 15 point lead in the last 3 minutes to a much worse team than the G-Men. Please!!! You cannot be serious!

  • Strongguard70

    @fins4ever I’m agreeing with your previous statement about the o line being “pathetic” and they were as you predicted. Bush had 100 yards because he finnaly got people to miss tackle, not because the o line can’t run block just ask Daniel thomas whose been rushing well with the same line. “Moore had a great game” you mean a great half game. The pressure in both halves was the same the only difference was Moore couldnt squirm away in the 2nd. The conservative play calling and prevent defense cost us the game last week and that comes from coaching. This week it was the defense as a whole that was pathetic. No pass rush especially from the interior linemen, again horrible coverage on TEs by the lbs giving Eli perfect safety valves in tough situations. All those things lead to the breakdown in the secondary. We dont have a safety who can work in pass coverage situations and the middle is always open. And do I have to mention tony McDaniel dropping back in coverage…. I don’t know if we saw the same game, but that’s what I was watching. -7 yards in the 2nd half. Dosnt sound very good to me.

  • fins4ever

    @Strongguard70 Agree. We could go on and on. The bottom line is the Fins fade badly toward the end of the game. They get a lead, make very little adjustments at 1/2 and lay down in the 4th. It is part coaching and conditioning.

  • fins4ever

    @Strongguard70 PS. Don’t know the stats, but thought the run D looked great. As you said, it was the lack of pass rush and coverage skills that hurt.

  • Strongguard70

    @fins4ever Hey man, what matters is we are in this thing together. It’s not the first time I’ve had to endure a season like this, im sure you can agree I’ve been through the 6-10 the 4-12 and the 1 -15, but this is the worst team we’ve ever had to watch by a long shot. For someone like me, who allows the dolphins success (or lack there of) to affect them personally, it’s been a pretty depressing experience. All we can do is look forward to next season, and as for me I’ll get my kicks out of the failures of the pats and jets.

  • mscout99

    All depends on the coaching situation; who will replace Sparano, and what control do they want over personnel?

    QB is NOT this team’s only need, and we may be looking at a two or three year rebuilding process. Right now, I would say Miami needs to be able to generate some offense, so if we keep Henne (only because I’m neutral with drafting Andrew Luck or another 1st round QB), then we need a guy like Justin Blackmon. Then look to upgrade the OL. It sucks to say that because it seems like we go into every draft needing a lineman, but this is sad when the Giants four man front puts our five “big men” on their backs in the 4th quarter. I’ll take having a 1984/1985 type team that can score in bunches and gives up points on defense.

    Defense is like a nine to eleven man need. No one on defense is cutting the mustard right now, and I would consider seeing what we can get on the trade market for every single one of them, even Cam Wake. I know Mike Nolan has been horrible this year, but the line can’t generate any pressure, the LB’s can’t tackle, and the secondary defends dirt instead of receivers. Every one of them should be on the trading block.

  • benjs11

    kellen moore…problem solved

  • drumzan

    I said it last year and I’ll say it this year – the Phins have two big holes they’ve continued to ignore – Free Safety and Tight End. Now this year the O-line needs a lot of help. I still have faith in Henne but have just come to expect that he’ll be gone. I say re-sign Henne and sign a 1st round QB to compete.

  • Dolphinfan21

    i say we suck for luck and instill magic within this franchise for the next 10-15 years. The qb is THE most important position on the field. This is the GAP we need to fill.

  • fins4ever

    @drumzan Love the comment. I foolishly thought we would put more emphasis on the TE after bringing in Daboll. I was wrong. Did Fasano even get a pass yesterday?

    Odd how success in the NFL depends so heavily on the passing game, both on offense and defense, yet the Fins have largely ignored those positions.

    It is my hope the new administration (as soon as Ross clears house), will draft a QB, TE, Safety, RT and it is beginning to look like we will need a NT as well.

  • fins4ever

    @mscout99 Hard to disagree with that. When was the last time the D created a turnover?

    Agree with the o line, that is where it starts.

    I think the problems can be solved in 2 years with the right personnel and coaching. Admit, the secondary is worse than I thought. I will give Wilson a pass, but aside from Bell and Davis, they stink.

    Smith got schooled yesterday. He was playing 10-15 yds. from the line.????? Did you see that lame tackle attempt by Will Allen down by the goal line? The guy just shook him off and scored 6. PATHETIC!

  • fins4ever

    @benjs11 They had several people that they could have signed, or at least brought in. Don’t remember them all, but Todd Heap, Oakland’s Miller and Shockey come to mind. Scratch Shockey. lol

  • fins4ever

    @Dolphinfan21 As much as I would love to have Luck, I just can’t bring myself to cheer for them to lose. What happens will happen. I see us winning two games and missing out on Luck. I would still be happy if they got Jones.

  • Strongguard70

    @fins4ever @benjs11 Heap, Miller, Shockey, Olsen, Boss, and incoming guys like jimmy graham. Definitely passed up on a ton off playmaking tightends that could have made a huge difference. Why do you think cam is having the year he’s having. Olsen looked like a wide receiver up the middle on Sunday.

  • cdwhnj

    The choice that was missing for me was “Give Devlin the last 3 games of this year to show what he’s got, then decide what to do in the draft” I’m not saying 3 bad games and you give up hope on him, but on the flip side 3 really good games could show that you already have an NFL caliber QB and don’t need to trade away draft picks to pay millions to a totally untested college QB. Then you keep Moore, get a FA, and let Moore, Devlin and the FA duke it out for the job with a level playing field.